Tuesday, May 14, 2013

POT-POURRI: Pyramids, Monks, and Reality Chunks.

Aimlessly wandering through the forest today. I have just about dissipated the 80 boxes of "stuff" which came up from Wheeling finally, and the house and SITU garage and basement research areas are almost presentable to somebody "normal". Of course I know that I wouldn't have to spruce it up for any of YOU folks. You obviously like a "little" abnormality or you wouldn't be here.

With the better part of the "work" done, there came a brief releasing of breath, and a chance to think about posting something. This post is a mixture of things, which, though I guess we're supposed to think that "everything's connected", I'll leave the synthesis, if any, to you. I'm going to blunder about these:

a]. Shensi Pyramids;
b]. A claim of spectacular Buddhist monk psi;
and c]. everyone's favorite new word, "jottles".

The pictures above are the reason for topic "a". I was putting away a near-final SITU Chaos Box when a decaying plastic package containing these photos emerged. Thankfully, for a change, they were labeled on the back. But not when they were taken. They were defaced, and I've tried to clean them up so you can enjoy looking at them more.

Here are the words which went with each photo:
1). "Tsin Che Huang-ti pyramid. Length: 350m; height: 48m; volume: 1,900,000 cubic meters. Chensi Province."
2). "Han Yuan-ti pyramid. Valley of the River Wei"
3). "The Nan-Ling. Pyramid of Emperor Wu.
     "The Ngan-Ling. Pyramid of Emperor Hu-wei.
       150-200m in length; 20m high."
4). "The Marshal's pyramid."
5). "Han Tchao-ti pyramid. 73 BC" [backside actually had a different way of denoting the "before Christ era".]
6). "The Marshal's pyramid".

Well, that's what there was. SITU never used any of these pictures, but did address the mysterious Chinese pyramids very early [1973] in its publication of PURSUIT. The photograph that they DID use they claimed a member got from a book published in 1902, entitled Through Hidden Shensi by Francis H. Nichols. This reference seems almost unknown to people who are commenting upon the Shensi pyramids on the internet, which is a curiosity in itself. Wikipedia, for instance, knows nothing about this and references something about ten years later for earliest "western" knowledge of these structures. And I looked at a half dozen special interest sites, and none of them reference it either. A bit odd....

The PURSUIT article went on to talk of the "famous" US military pilot overflight in 1947, the report of which brought the subject of these pyramids "out of the closet" finally. The pilot, Colonel Maurice Sheahan, photographed a pyramid from the air and this was published.

Apparently this is that photo. This 1947 pyramid is manicured on the sides with a noticeably flat top. None of the mysterious photos from the Chaos Box look quite that way. The answer?: MANY pyramids scattered all about Shensi. Somehow, the photo above and the story by the American pilot got molded into a belief that the pyramid shown was a structure so great that it dwarfed the Great Pyramid of Egypt. The statement widely circulated that the Shensi pyramid was 1000 feet high, whereas the Great Pyramid only 470. However big the photo'd Shensi pyramid really was/is, none of the pictures that I just uncovered claim to show pyramids greater than about 150 feet. Arguments began about the size of this thing resulting in dataless baloney and name-calling.

Regardless of the debate about size [another utterly pointless human brouhaha], it's at least certain that the pre-Christian era Chinese emperors piled up great pyramidal mounds of earth for some reason, did this lots of times, and oriented all of them very close to true North-South-East-West lines. The Egyptians did this, too, and in their case we know that they were pointing their "exit shafts" towards the Polar stars, so that Pharaoh's soul could launch upwards into the realm of the "Undying Heavens" {The Star region which never set}, and there remain in Paradise Immortal. Did the Chinese Emperors share the thought?

Well, modern folks at least are trying to turn the "mystery" of the giant "White Pyramid" [there has gotten to be an added claim that the really big one has a glorious shining white top section], into a great variety of what seem largely to be their own reveries untrammeled by facts. One of these ideas is that the Great White Pyramid contains a veritable treasurehouse of ancient Chinese wealth. Another is that it is a great depository of secrets, and there seems to even be a newly minted "brotherhood of the White Pyramid" set up to keep the rest of us out. [wherever the thing is].

Now for a little added disclosure: when I first came across the SITU pyramid pictures, my first thought wasn't particularly about any mysteries associated with them, but instead of being reminded of reading "somewhere" of a guy who slogged across central China during one of their interminable wars, and "discovered" the location of the pyramids by accident. He then went on to a much more fascinating experience, which I will tell of in a moment. But I couldn't remember where I'd read this, and all my files were empty. Then it dawned on me that I "knew" one person who would have been panting with excitement about such things. Can you guess?

Wait for it..........

george hunt williamson.

Yep, good old Georgie. The article that I sought was right in his files. Like I just said, I'll get to the details of what really interested me in a moment, but GHW was on the hunt of big things himself. The map above [somehow GHW got hold of an old military operations map; the guy was amazing] shows George's plot of his interpretation of the trip that the writer, Fred Meyer Schroder, took in 1912. The markings are Williamson's. George deduced that Schroder came down the road [dark dashed line] entering the map top-middle and continued south and west with a line of pyramids on his left. GHW might actually be correct about this. Here GHW felt that Schroder "discovered" a whole array of pyramids seemingly kept secret even from most of the authorities.

Why was Williamson interested? He felt that these pyramids were "linked" somehow with the pyramids in Egypt, and that they somehow pointed the way to powers. He corresponded enthusiastically about this with New Zealand UFOlogist and generally far-out thinker, Bruce Cathie. Both of them believed that the Earth was dotted with some sort of regular grids, which ancient magicians or sensitives could detect and utilize somehow by building structures at key points. Cathie "calculated" that the prime pyramid of Shensi [the one marked "1" on the map] was precisely paralleled in one one his grids with the Great Pyramid of Egypt. Georgie was enamored of the whole lay-out, as he saw the pyramids in the form of the constellation Draco the Dragon, symbolizing the Earth's Dragonline power {the Chinese have their dragonline, feng-shui, concept rather than our ley line concept}. Both GHW and Cathie were now assured that they were on the path to greatness and proceeded to locate the site where Adamski met the Spaceman in the desert on one of Cathie's grid points. [NOT kidding].

Well, how much better can it get? Ivan Sanderson may have paid some attention to this, as he was migrating to a concept of a "dodecadated globe" to "explain" places like The Bermuda Triangle and the rest of his "Vile Vortices".

I hate to be a stick in the mud, but I believe that none of that grid-drawing makes any sense whatever. What I DO think makes at least partial sense is the adventure of Fred Meyer Schroder, who trekked past those pyramids in 1912.

Schroder was an original character who reveled in living a full throttle life. In 1912 he and a partner were making a good living operating caravans mainly between the Mongolian capital of Urga [Ulan Bator] and the Great Wall trading terminuses. They went into the Chinese interior carrying cigarettes and other items of vice, and bringing illegal guns back to Urga for the Mongolian rebels. At this moment, the revolution was particularly hot, and Schroder and his buddy were in danger from the Chinese military. Their Mongol friends brought them a surprising message that they were being sent for by the local high holy man. This lama told them that the Chinese military would crush them all, unless one thing happened. That one thing was that "the red god" would send a direct message to the monks around the Urga region to rise up as one force and fight. This was the name of the Tashi Lama of Kumbum Monastery, the second most revered holyman after only the Dalai Lama. Schroder and his friend were to journey to the monastery of the Red God and inform him of this need.

This was asking a journey of over 2000 miles, but in a way there was little choice. Schroder's partner stayed behind to help with the fighting, and Schroder went more or less south to pick up an influential lama to accompany him the bulk of the trip. It was during the mainly westerly part of the journey that Schroder saw the Shensi pyramids. All that element of the adventure seemed to make good reading sense to me. The travelers made greater than fifty miles per day mounted and enjoying no military interruptions, and with the lama along, good welcomings. Plus, the pyramids seem accurately placed and described. So far so good.

They get to Kumbum monastery and the Red God asked to see Schroder immediately. Schroder explained the reason for his journey. The Red God listened in friendly fashion, but did not then agree to do what was asked. There were regular meetings for two weeks more. During this time it was as if the high lama was getting to know Schroder at a depth he wanted to. It was then that the thing happened, or was alleged to have happened, that interested me. The Red God decided to show Schroder how the monastery got its information about how things were going in Mongolia.

Schroder says that he was taken by the Tashi Lama to a very quiet room, which seemed to be an environment for maintaining an altered state of consciousness via meditation. Young monks [over twenty in number] sat on prayer rugs in a semi-circle and had the appearance of dozing off. Other monks sat or stood by quietly watching the "dozers". When one of the monks would rouse, a watcher would hurry over to him with a cup of tea. The roused monk would drink avidly, then tell the onlookers "where he'd been" and what was the news he brought from there.

This room was, therefore, what we might today call a location for maintaining a dream-like altered state of consciousness for "remote viewing", or at least that's what I believe my friend Hal Puthoff would call it. The difference between what Hal tried to accomplish with remote viewers like Pat Price, Hella Hammid, and Ingo Swann was that the Tashi Lama [unlike the CIA] considered this "actionable intelligence". And the high lama DID act, agreeing that the information received by this method from the Urga area indicated that his support for the revolution there could produce success.

So ....... did this happen? We westerners have only Schroder's word for it. But the rest of his narrative also had "unbelievable {for the time}" wonders in it [the pyramids], and that part proved true. And we have had for many years the knowledge that Buddhist meditators claim at the highest levels to be able to achieve the "siddhis", or a set of paranormal abilities which include "distant knowing". And we have Hal's work, which says that even we undisciplined westerners can do it some of the time. Buddhist meditation seems to be a sort of "mental technology" for achieving {at great patient commitment} some of these potentials. Maybe Schroder was privileged to witness a "psychic information center" inside the Kumbum Monastery.

Now.... how to put all this remote viewing and pyramid mysteries together in true George Hunt Williamson style?

Whoops!! No way. You're not going to sucker me in on THAT one!!

Thankfully, George passed before the Martian pyramids stuff arose. Would he ever have gone bonkers on that!



And now for something completely different.... yeh, I know, GHW would have found a connection with this too......

My [and our] good friend, Jerry Clark, sent me a piece of a contribution to a monograph by a parapsychologist named Mary Rose Barrington on her concept of "jottles". She says JOTTs or "Just One of Those Things". The idea is actually a bit useful, as it does not really embed within the word a model of the envisioned theoretical reason for JOTTs. It has gotten several persons talking about it, including a whole panel at the British Society for Psychical Research. Barrington is trying to describe in general terms the far-more-common-than-realized-or-admitted phenomenon of puzzling disappearances and re-appearances of everyday objects. When such happens, it's "just one of those things".

The table above lists Barrington's types of JOTTs or as they are coming to be called "jottles".

I had, and described here on the blog, a mind-boggler jottle [for me, anyway], when my watch went missing, and several days later AFTER I HAD PURCHASED A NEW ONE, it "reappeared" exactly in the wide-open corner of the kitchen cabinet-top where it was supposed to be all along. I have a VERY organized sister to whom these things happen disturbingly regularly. These are classic "comebacks" in the types listed above. My UFO buddy, Robert Powell, did us all one better with a "trade-in" wherein a pair of scissors was replaced by a non-identical pair, and later the original scissors "returned" alongside the new interloper!.

{ I probably shouldn't have included this along with the other material above, but I thought if I don't slot this in now, I'll likely forget, so here it is. I wanted to share the concept and the following two stories}.

I believe that Robert's jottle is better that Manfred's, but Grosse's tale is genuinely Out Proctor.

Barrington seems to lean towards an idea that quantum fluctuations in an unruly Universe must have something to do with this, and who knows? But I still prefer, as the Old Religion did, the concept of the paranormal entity who has been messing around with us from Time Immemorial. Heck, he/she/it can use quantum fluctuations like a Maxwellian Daemon.

Peace and joy, folks.... and may all your jottles be amusing ones.


  1. The term jottle's new to me Prof but not the idea behind it.

    I suspect you sense it's related to the Red God's mystical war room staff collating data in which case I concur.

    I personally suspect it's also related to how we all collectively pin human reality together eg maybe when we can't find the salt shaker or the wristwatch it's because we haven't collapsed in back into existence in human experiential form Schrodinger's Cat style.

    I suspect it's also related to how these objects abductees claim to find or sense under their skin get there reports of which go back to the dawn of human history and shamanic culture.

    I suspect it's also related to voodoo projection magic and maybe even to Adam's rib becoming part of Eve though that's also I suspect an early allusion to the male Y chromosome using the technical language of the day.

    It's also I suspect tangential to the oracular function in the same way Schroder seems to've been used as a kind of unwitting oracle to transmit 'stuff' readable at different levels and in different ways to the West.

    ...much as you've more than half wittingly acted as a kind of random number generator oracle by chucking here before us in this particular blog a variety of seemingly disparate and completely unrelated jottings or should I say jottlings which may not be anything of the sort and thereby triggering off our neurons into detecting who knows what hitherto unsuspected connections?

  2. I experience this all the time. It's called "failing my search roll". It's just the natural tendency for the human mind to not see things that are actually there until you look again. nothing paranormal here.

    1. Completely off-target comment. While that simpleminded incompetence may well apply to some types of people, it hardly applies to the cases that I've been discussing from my family, friends, and myself. In fact, given the description of the actual search processes that these situations entailed, this "just missed seeing it" blow-off comment is a bit uncivil at a minimum.

  3. My dear professor, the "pyramids" of Xi'an are "jottles" disappearing, being replaced by something not there, but in reality they are what they are, burial mounds of varying size, dependent on the stature of their occupant. The West has invested far more mystery in the Xi'an burial mounds, than the locals, who by and large seem bemused by the exotic renderings, beyond the Chinese perspectives, given to them. Sure mystery still attend the sites and many discoveries await, but I doubt they will be of an alien kind. The sites are fascinating and the terracota warriors and associated archeological treasures are remarkable to see in person. Cici, my personal Xi'an guide in 2005 was also a guide at the National Museum of Shaanxi (Shensi) history. She was very informative and put all the sites and sights into realistic contexts, which had sufficient exotic elements, without adding aliens into the mix. Indeed it seems the tourist is the "real" alien in Shaanxi. Me? I was part "alien", part researcher, going with the flow, feng-shui, following a "dragon path." Schroder's account seems reasonable enough. Seeing the mounds ("pyramids") spread out across the plains was exotic enough. Nichols' account is striking and it seems odd that most histories seem to miss it, despite it being available through a number of university sites, even readable on line. Schroder's "remote viewing" monks ... intriguing, but is it accurate. Depends on your take on Schroder, but such abilities were widely attributed to shamans and the like, so certainly not without precedent. With GHW and Cathie stirring the westernised stew an exotic alien offering was to be expected. Great post. Thank you for posting the Shaanxi (Shensi) photos. My copy of "Old Xi'an - Evening Glow of an Imperial City" by Jia Pingao acquired in Xi'an has many old pictures, includes some of the burial mounds. My warmest regards, Bill

    1. I'm with you all the way, my friend... as usual. The Shensi pyramids are wondrous just as they are, as productions of we clever mortals, and if Bruce Cathie or GHW turn out to be right about any of their big speculations, I will be more surprised than anyone. As to the Kumbum monastery "intelligence center": I can't be confident of any of that, because I'm dependent upon Schroder and I have no way of vetting his credibility. Because he was pretty accurate about the rest of his highly adventurous tale, the remote viewing aspect was worth softly putting out there. ... as you realized, being the open-minded bright fellow that you are.

  4. Being of "the year of the dragon" I have my dragon sensibilities nicely reflected in a large wall picture in my study, a Chinese form of raised & woven fine material built up to show 2 sky dragons pursuing a fiery sky pearl, so I'm with you. Always good to see intriguing possible connections revealed by open minds. I was also taken my Nichols' account of "a dragon eating the moon" seen at one point on his way to Xi'an (pages 82 - 84), a traditional "Chinese astronomy" take on an eclipse. Many thanks for taking me there again.

  5. Incidentally I recollect getting a few of my university Pure Mathematics projective geometry tutorials caught up with an assessment of Cathie's "grid theory" which didn't come out too well for that exercise, but it was fun doing it back then (about 1971)

    1. Ha!!! Even though I taught a "Science and Parascience" course every semester at Western Michigan, I don't think that anyone here could have pulled off a Bruce Cathie analysis without scowls from the curriculum committees.

  6. Jottles seem to be the same as what Cynthia Sue Larson calls "reality shifts". From an 2010 comment of mine on another blog:

    [The Realityshifters site] has around 400 modern first-hand accounts of “reality shifts”, which are mostly disappearing / appearing / reappearing events including all sorts of small objects (especially jewelery), money, food, stores, buildings, trees, sculptures, landmarks, signs, doors, cars, trucks, trains, people, crowds, obituaries, animals, medical conditions, house damages, time, distance, mountain ranges, towns, movie dialog, computer command syntax, electronic faults, electrical repairs, and many others. There are also some more odd stories of short-range teleportation through obstacles, unaccountable velocity and acceleration changes (e.g. falling slowly), time shifts, and various other observations of extreme discrepancies. This includes about two dozen accounts of doppelgangers or similar.

    The reality-shift collection starts here and goes on for 129 pages.

    1. I agree with you and the blog mistress on this general viewpoint. On the more macroscopic scale, these things all seem to at least possibly hang together. On the more mini-human-level scale of small objects, I have an "itch" that there may be more than one thing going on --- some Universal spacetime weirdness, but some tricksterism too. And I don't think that THOSE two ideas are anywhere near identical.

      Thank you for posting a link; the readers should go over there and enjoy themselves, as I did once before [I think it was this site anyway].

    2. There is some sort of pattern, but I'm wary of thinking I can see it. There is something unsatisfying and incomplete about the simulation / "Matrix" and quantum many-worlds explanations, there is an element of willfulness and a sense of conscious interaction that those don't cover. The deep-woo channeling and astral travel which covers that willful, conscious interaction element seems like mostly incoherent warmed-over theosophy, with some partial exceptions, such as some of the things from Monroe Institute participants, for instance Bruce Moen. Maybe he seems more coherent because he's an engineer. (Cynthia Sue Larson, despite being a pretty mom who, judging by her website and videos, you might suspect has been selling crystals in Sedona since the last harmonic convergence, actually has a physics degree from Berkeley.)

      Maybe Rudy Rucker(computer science/math professor, cyberpunk/transreal author, misleadingly normal-looking ???, etc.) has the best take on it with hylozoizm, which is much like panpsychism, i.e. "things are people, too." That's his normal, respectable philosophical fall-back position, though. He often goes way further out. In Rucker's Frek and the Elexir, Earth and all the universe it knew about in 3003 - it's whole population's experiences - turns out to just be an entertainment/advertising reality-rental service for n-dimensional mind-worm audiences under the thrall of the Magic Pig. It makes slightly more sense in context. Slightly. But the whole truth about what's really going on in our universe is probably even weirder than that, with extra added infinite-dimensional mental topological algebra.

    3. Eh. I tend to place very close to zero interest in near-stream-of-consciousness hypothesizing which embeds infinite variables and no discernible connection with historical experiences/ folklore wisdom. I also ignore show-stopper statements like "the universe is weirder than we can possibly comprehend" that so many of these free-thought people tend to end with. Rucker, if you are describing his thoughts adequately, is spewing his own brand of science fiction. I hope that he gets a movie contract. Cynthia Larson on the other hand is at least massing up data on a rough class of occurrences and trying to see what she can see --- a much more intriguing and admirable activity.

    4. Collecting reports is valuable, but so is trying to come up with a coherent theory. One has to do some mental stretching to keep in shape for such a hard task, and reading Rucker is a sort of mental yoga. He says: “I think that any view of reality should include the mental element as well as physical space and time. And there’s a real sense in which our minds inhabit a world of inconceivably many dimensions. But all the science can easily miss the immediacy of how the world feels.” “If everything is a computation, then we’re all made of the same stuff. So a computer doesn’t have to be made of wires and silicon chips in a box. … Computer scientists believe that if a process is sufficiently gnarly or complex, then it’s universal, in the sense that the process can emulate any other computation. So a leaf fluttering in the breeze can, in principle, emulate the workings of my brain. ...If a fluttering leaf can emulate my brain, then the leaf itself can be conscious. “

      If everything is conscious, or at least alive, it solves the problem of trying to build up consciousness from inanimate matter. I think it also can explain the apparent willfulness of inanimate objects in reality-shift cases, and even gives a strong hint as to the nature of the reported and hypothesized other realms of existence as existing in various parts of a distinct-from-physical “Mindspace”, a substrate of minds-in-general which is implied by the pervasiveness of consciousness and free will in various physical substrates and sometimes even without any apparent physical substrate. Such a space would be quite different from an ordinary space, it would have a high, likely unbounded number of dimensions, a structure of logical implication similar to, but distinct from time, and a partial basis built up from all the events (quanta) in the real world. It would include not only the Platonic forms, but also every shade of meaning and experience of every sort of being. It would logically include all representations of its own structure within itself, so it would seem to be transfinite. That's my take on mindspace, anyway, but it's a slippery subject.

      Here's some other potential corroboration on hylozoism:
      The idea of electrons having free will became semi-respectable in 2006 with Conway and Kochen's paper claiming a proof of the “free will theorem”, that is: if anything has free will, then either electrons or the universe or both have free will.

      And here's another item from a fellow who did experiments on the subject, Sir Jagadis Chandra Bose, FRS. (He was also using semiconductors for millimeter-wave radio receivers in the 1890s, and gave a lecture to the Royal Society on the topic, with Marconi in the audience and before Marconi had done anything of substance.) Bose's 1902 work “Response in the Living and Non-Living” found similar complex responses to various sorts of stimulation, fatigue and poisons in nerves, muscles, plants and metals. There are many plots of the responses which appear to be from an oscilloscope, but were actually made with an opto-mechanical predecessor of the oscilloscope that Bose invented for the purpose. Bose was trying to refute vitalism, but I think he was quite aware that he was implying something very much like hylozoism or panpsychism. I find it hard to believe his results, but he wasn't a crank, and I haven't done the experiments he did.

      So to get back to your original reply, I think the “universal spacetime weirdness” and tricksterism may not be so distinct as they seem at first if space-time is actually a subset of mindspace.

    5. Fine. Enjoy that line of thought. For me it's a dead end. That line of thought insists on a rejection of dualism; I do not. For me there is no necessity to "build up consciousness from electrons". That reduces to physical reductionism in the end, and voids the fundamental concepts of the special soul creations and reality of freewilling true higher intelligences.

  7. prof, the last mars photo you put in there , they just for emphasis or joke ? i mean among the serious UFO researchers including you, what do you all 'see' regarding the martian cydonia pyramid 'complex' ? personally my opinion tend toward natural geologic formations after seeing the published photos , unless there are unpublished/classified high resolution photos on that site.

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    2. {I made some punctuation errors in the response above and had to delete it --- this blog system doesn't allow editing of any replies, even my own}. Here's my response edited the hard way:

      Number one: in the context of the posting, it is obviously a "romantic allusion" [I view it as a bit more substantive than a crude "joke"], and meant to give the readers some fun. You must have some difficulty having this sort of fun, which is your privilege.

      Number two: almost every space exploration scientist who I have listened to or read, allows themselves the healthy curiosity to imagine wonderful possibilities in a thing before hard evidence arrives to eliminate those possibilities. Carl Sagan told me personally that if "The Face" turned out to be intelligently formed in some way [even slightly], it would impact the entirety of our view of biological evolution. And he said this with NO mockery in his tone.

      Did he think it likely at the time that The Face was artificial? No. But he also didn't laugh the concept off before the physical evidence was even in.

      Science grinds to a halt when you eliminate possibility before evidence itself eliminates it. Is the likely hypothesis that all these intriguing Martian landforms are Mother Nature's artistry interestingly applied? Yes. Is that hypothesis PROVED? No. Do you really think that when we have the proper chance, we will not even bother to go right up to these things and look?

      And.... if one persists in such a dismissive wave-it-off attitude, why bother to be interested in any of these "obviously wrong" fields of study at all? I might as well just shut down the blog and recycle my library.

  8. Prof, you dont have to publish/reply to this , just want to explain my question above , apology if i offended you.

    - not english speaking so forgive if question sounds crude
    - not a personal attack to criticize your blog style / post style.
    - never wave off anything regarding UFOLOGY , including mars cydonia pyramid complex. would love to see that it is not natural formation (and see the high resolution photos on that area if released by NASA)

    what i meant to say in the previous post / question was your opinion (and your peers in UFOLOGY) about that pyramid complex. thats all.. and thanks for answering it already.



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